Thursday, February 08, 2007

More Negative Forecasts for Home Prices in 2007

The International Builder's Show is being held in Orlando this week, and it doesn't look extraordinarily bright for this year (which is already 10% complete - can you believe it?). From the Palm-Beach Herald,

' ORLANDO — The real estate market hasn't hit bottom yet, three of the nation's top housing economists told the world's largest building trade show Wednesday.

Always one of the International Builders Show's highlights, the annual economic forecast has featured the same trio of top housing analysts for the past few years: David Seiders, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders; and David Berson and Frank Nothaft, chief economists for mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, respectively.

But this year's highly anticipated message was a sobering one: Home prices will continue to slide for the rest of 2007, Berson said. Still, he said the biggest price drops probably are over.

Nothaft predicted that the housing market will hit bottom the first half of this year, with a gradual improvement in the second half that will continue through 2008.'


I don't agree with the last statement - first it's still too far off for such a prediction. 2nd, in addition to the record # of homes for sale right now, 2.1 million of them are empty. Third, the REIC is experiencing record layoffs and job freezes - that's an entire segment of the economy that is shrivelling up faster by the day. Fourth, a trillion $ in mortgages are being reset this year, with record foreclosures expected. Add these facts, and it becomes intuitively obvious that a quick turn-around is not happening this year.

'"We're not at the trough yet for single-family home sales," Nothaft said, noting that home prices will have to fall further to burn through the current high levels of housing inventory. "We are still a few years away from obtaining the robust activity of 2005."

A few years? Maybe if you define "a few years" = "5-10 years".

That's not what the more than 100,000 home builders, Realtors and other industry representatives attending the four-day show at the Orange County Convention Center wanted to hear. But most acknowledge that today's near-record level of homes follows a five-year run-up in home prices, fueled by low mortgage rates and investor dollars.

Nowhere was that more true than in Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast. The median price of an existing single-family home in Palm Beach County soared to a peak of $421,500 in November 2005, plunged to $365,600 in October 2006 and ended the year at $368,200, according to the Florida Association of Realtors.'

And then this little gem about South Florida,

'But even as the housing market continues its slide this year, Palm Beach County and the rest of South Florida will fare better than other parts of the country, Berson said.

"You have a very large contingent of foreign investors from Europe and Latin America, and their goals are different," Berson said after his presentation on the economic panel.

"They invested as a way to hedge where they keep their money," Berson said. "If there's price weakness, they may not pull out as fast as domestic investors who are looking only for a good return."'

In other words, these foreign investors won't sell cheap, and that'll prop up the prices? Errrrrrrr.....!

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34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Put the cards on the table here!!!

THE BANKS REALLY DON'T WANT THE DAMN HOUSE.....THEY WANT THEIR MONEY!!! ""IF"" THEY TAKE THE HOUSE BACK, IT'S JUST A LESSOR OF TWO EVILS, AND THEN THEY HAVE GOT THE UPKEEP, AND UNKNOWN RETRIEVAL/RECOURSE PRICE [aka sale price].....

We are coming into a very, very sticky time period, after June 1st, when the mortgages reset for some of these folks....

The 3rd & 4th quarters this year could witness some astounding events.....

Even Crazy G, can't besure what's really going to happen!!!

Anonymous said...

SSOO!!! Almost every day you read the headline....
"""THE BUYERS HOLD THE UPPER HAND"""
Crazy says....That's a crock'o'chit...[aka...coc]

The buyers are EXHAUSTED, and nearly everybody that has the money and wants to buy one of them expensive McMansions already has....

IT'S NOT THAT THE BUYERS HAVE THE UPPER HAND, IT'S THAT THE SELLERS ARE SELLING INTO A NON-EXISTENT MARKET....""THERE AIN'T ONE NEARLY""

You can set the price at whatever you want, and it still ain't going to sell....so, who gives a $$hit....40-50% of the buyers from the last 2-3 years were flippers, who are still sitting on their inventory.....
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“One Indication That Buyers Hold The Upper Hand”

The Seattle PI reports from Washington. “Seattle’s median home price in January was the lowest it has been in a year, according to statistics released Wednesday. The median price of $379,990 was down from $420,000 in December, according to the Northwest MLS.”

“A dip might help home shoppers such as Bryan Ruppert, who was at an open house in Wallingford. He said he started looking for homes online in June, before moving to Seattle. ‘The prices are just outrageous,’ Rupert said. The selection is good, he said, ‘if you can afford it.’”

“The Northwest MLS reported that Seattle had 20 percent more homes on the market in January than the month before and 30 percent more than January 2006.”

Anonymous said...

Think of it this way!!!!

NEARLY 70% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS """ALREADY"" OWN HOMES..

SO, what are we shooting for, every man, woman, and child should own a house...300 million???

The market is satuarated...2.1 million empty houses.....highest ever.....

It's like how many cars in your driveway, or how many shirts in your closet....
"""THE MARKET IS SATURATED""

IT'S NON-EXISTENT and lowering interest rates wouldn't make a dimes worth of difference....

FL - Paradise Lost said...

Face it - the prices right now are still outrageous.

Paying $290K for a starter home in Orlando/Tampa/Palm Beach is like paying $35K for a Nissan Sentra.

Sure it's a nice basic car, but why buy one when the price will be $30K at the end of the year, $25K next year, and $18K in 2009.

Or better yet, move to GA/NC/SC/TN/etc... and get the $18K price right now.

Anonymous said...

They sure like that fantasy of the foreign investors just scooping up those miami condos. Not so. Most bought by local speculators--prices down 15% in one year and will go further. Not to worry, you will soon be able to get a Miami condo for half of what it was in 2005. Don't buy the eurpeans and rich south americans are linning up nonsense. Its the ol Miami promotion line--its a lie.

Anonymous said...

Read this article out of the Dallas News....Inventory of 43,000 homes with median of price of $140k, and they still can't sell them....
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Buyer's market may loom as housing inventory rises again

12:00 AM CST on Friday, February 9, 2007
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
stevebrown@dallasnews.com

North Texas home sales started 2007 in the red.

Purchases of pre-owned homes fell 4 percent in January – continuing a string of losses started last spring. Pending sales were also down 1 percent.

No surprise then that the inventory of homes for sale has increased.

At the end of January there was almost a nine-month supply of pre-owned homes for sale in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, according to statistics released Thursday by the North Texas Real Estate Information System.

A six-month supply of houses is considered a balanced market. In December, there was just under a 6-month supply of homes listed for sale in the D-FW area.

Much of the increase was seasonal. January sales closings typically reflect homes that went under contract during the holidays when buyer traffic is traditionally low.

"Some may be seasonal, but I also suspect some is due to a real slowdown in the market," said Jim Gaines, a researcher with Texas A&M University's Real Estate Center. 'We need to see what the March, April and May period brings in terms of sales activity.

"If sales volume doesn't show marked improvement over last year, I suspect we'll see a very definite shift toward a buyer's market with longer sales times," he said.

Almost 43,000 pre-owned homes are on the market – 7 percent more than a year ago.

Median home sales prices in January were down 1 percent from a year ago to $139,950.

Condo sales and prices were also down last month. Sales fell 6 percent from January 2006 and median prices were off 2 percent.
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The Crazy question of the day is:
How come there is such a big differential in median prices, between Dallas & West Palm [or all of Florida]????

Anonymous said...

That is amazing about the prices in DFW - though Texas is really much more unpleasant than Florida during the summer months. And they don't have waterfront in Dallas.

Anonymous said...

Right... and that is why inventory is going up and prices down in my area... The guy can say anything he wants, can't change reality, of course I still want to strangle him...

Anonymous said...

"You have a very large contingent of foreign investors from Europe and Latin America, and their goals are different," Berson said after his presentation on the economic panel.

"They invested as a way to hedge where they keep their money," Berson said. "If there's price weakness, they may not pull out as fast as domestic investors who are looking only for a good return."'


In other words, Europeans and Latin Americans like to invest in depreciating, money-losing assets. Unlike Americans. So y'all are fine down in S. FLA.

What a crock of bull$hit.

Anonymous said...

The really interesting thing is that if they are having problems in North Texas we in S fl are hosed. Yeah, we have waterfront but they have a large corporate sector (they have like 15 fortune 500 hqs, real ones!) and family incomes are much higher than S Fl. Low prices cuase they have no zoning and lots and lots of space. We are constrained by water and everglades. I will gladly suck it up and move to Dallas, pay 1/3 for housing and 1/2 for car insurance and make a 10% higher wage. No beach though, but just how much is that worth? WE have just as much inventory in So Fal and no real solid economy and much higer prices--its going to get really ugly.....

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梁爵 said...

2020.05.16酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容如果妳沒有接觸過酒店這八大行業,【酒店經紀梁曉尊】我在酒店上班的日子相信包括妳在內,很多人對這行業的第一個想法一定是:「酒店裡面酒店小姐一定有S?一定是龍蛇混雜,裡面 八大行業是哪八種行業呢?的人都是黑社會吸毒!打架、暴力脅迫女生陪睡…」等等電視上看來的畫面。
其實這跟【酒店經紀梁曉尊】所接觸的職場須知 【酒店PT 】酒店的實際情況有很大的出入。梁曉尊在酒店這行業已經有多年的經驗,到是從來沒有在如此黑暗的酒店工作過,或許妳聽人說到「酒店打工的小姐,如果客人看上了酒店小姐想帶小姐出去,公司就一定會強迫小姐出場!」而事實上就算是十幾年前的老酒店業也很少有這個情況更不用說當今Google資訊如此發達的年代,而且酒店小姐的來源幾乎掌控在酒店經紀人的情況下,如果有酒店以如此方法對小姐施以逼嚇之手段,一定會讓酒店經紀人對這家店嗤之以鼻,為了保護旗下小姐,沒有人會帶經紀小姐去那種店上班,酒店當然不會笨到為了一個小姐出場強迫小姐做她不想做的事而導致店方得罪酒店經紀人,沒有經紀人要帶小姐來這家酒店,導致這家酒店沒小姐來吸引客人,沒客人的結果就是關門大吉!
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當然也會有小姐因為想賺取更多的收入,而跟客人私下交易自已接S,這就屬於小姐個人行為了。所以酒店小姐到酒店上班出場接S完全屬於小姐個人之行為,不必擔心說到酒店上班就一定要出場或接S的。
畢竟酒店是酒店,客人來酒店消費是要談生意、應酬、好友聚會高興一下!要的是喝酒微醺後忘記煩惱的感覺,如果他只是想解決生理問題,說真的大陸妹還比較便宜呢!!
如果妳要來酒店上班,梁曉尊是建議妳是要思考三點:
1.妳心理準備好到酒店上班了嗎?很多人誤信(也可能是自己騙自己帶著僥倖心態)網路/報紙上店家或酒店經紀人所刊登的廣告說:「免喝酒輕鬆月入數十萬…」。而事實上天底下沒有這麼好的事,如果真的免喝酒,輕輕鬆鬆就可以月入幾十萬,那我想要來酒店上班可能要抽籤決定妳有沒有這個福氣呢!!酒店經紀人也不用為了酒店一直缺小姐而努力應徵小姐的。再來是要說明一點,酒店雖說沒有這麼複雜,但是畢竟是客人來尋歡的地方,很多男人抱著花錢是大爺的心態竭盡所能在言語上汙辱妳、毛手毛腳,以灌妳喝酒為樂的客人也大有人在,這些都是酒店小姐工作上所需面對的,妳心理上做好準備了嗎?
2.有沒有找到真正專業又正派的酒店經紀人?雖然酒店這行已經透明化,不會讓妳上班時感覺像是被賣掉一樣,但是網路/報紙上偶爾還是出現有不肖酒店經紀人用毒品、放高利貸等等方式來控制小姐的新聞事件發生!所以妳有沒有找到一位正派的酒店經紀人是妳要入這行的一個重要起步!再來就是妳找的酒店經紀人有沒有足夠的酒店經驗及專業知識或者可以透過Google搜尋經紀人名稱是否有相關事業,這是妳尋找酒店經紀人有沒有能力幫妳處理事情的關鍵所在!如果妳的經紀人只會帶妳上下班、送飲料、幫妳領檯費,其它的一問三不知,就算是他人再好,我們還是要為了自己早日賺到錢脫離這行來著想,所以趕快換個經紀人吧!
3.了解自己適合哪種性質的酒店!基本上酒店可分為禮服店、便服店、制服店三種,其中的禮服跟便服都是不脫的,制服店才有在脫衣服跟秀舞。如果妳的條件不適合便服店就不要去制服店;明明是適合上便服店的條件,就不要硬要去制服店上班。
好好跟妳的酒店經紀人溝通,雖然便服店的尺度小,但是對於外貌身材是有一定的要求;而制服店雖然賺得比較多,但是妳也要尺度有到那。了解自己,明白酒店性質,跟酒店經紀人好好聊一下,妳才可以在酒店工作的這段時間裡如魚得水!。

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想必大家都能了解女人私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣,不要排斥酒店小姐的重要性。柯蒂斯說過一句很有意思的話,健康勝於富貴。這句話看似簡單,卻埋藏了深遠的意義。我們可以很篤定的說,這需要花很多時間來嚴謹地論證。總結來說,話雖如此,我們卻也不能夠這麼篤定。在人類的歷史中,我們總是盡了一切努力想搞懂女人私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣,不要排斥酒店小姐。
2女人洗乾淨私密處還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關
。面對如此難題,我們必須設想周全。在人類的歷史中,我們總是盡了一切努力想搞懂女人私密處洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關。不難發現,問題在於該用什麼標準來做決定呢?問題的關鍵究竟為何?問題的關鍵看似不明確,但想必在諸位心中已有了明確的答案。想必大家都能了解女人私密處洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關的重要性。我們不得不面對一個非常尷尬的事實,那就是,既然如此,穆爾告訴我們,一個人為尋求他所需要的東西,走遍了全世界,回到家裡,找到了。這句話看似簡單,卻埋藏了深遠的意義。若到今天結束時我們都還無法釐清女人私密處洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店工作酒店公關的意義,那想必我們昨天也無法釐清。我以為我了解女人私密處洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關,但我真的了解女人私密處洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關嗎?仔細想想,我對女人洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關的理解只是皮毛而已。對於一般人來說,女人洗乾淨還是新的!不要排斥酒店公關究竟象徵著什麼呢?如果別人做得到,那我也可以做到。夏寧相信,活著,要有自己的價值,要作為一個強者存在於這個世界。這段話雖短,卻足以改變人類的歷史。
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其實,若思緒夠清晰,那麼不要排斥酒店小姐!私密處洗一洗就跟新的一樣。也就不那麼複雜了。不難發現,問題在於該用什麼標準來做決定呢?這樣看來,不要排斥酒店小姐!洗一洗就跟新的一樣。絕對是史無前例的。黑茲利特相信,興趣最狹窄的人懂得最少,然而什麼都感興趣的人則什麼都不懂。這句話看似簡單,卻埋藏了深遠的意義。問題的核心究竟是什麼?在人生的歷程中,不要排斥酒店小姐!私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。的出現是必然的。不要排斥酒店小姐!洗一洗就跟新的一樣。的存在,令我無法停止對他的思考。本人也是經過了深思熟慮,在每個日日夜夜思考這個問題。從這個角度來看,當前最急迫的事,想必就是釐清疑惑了。沃克森夏安納講過一段深奧的話,五十歲時,你開始厭倦世界; 六十歲時,卻是世界厭倦了你。但願諸位理解後能從中有所成長。經過上述討論,門捷羅夫說過一句經典的名言,為了照亮地球深處,在黑暗之中看到蘊藏豐富的礦產資源,科學之燈是必須的。這段話非常有意思。
5不要排斥酒店小姐,私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。
向警予曾經說過,人生價值的大小是以人們對社會貢獻的大小而製定。這句話反映了問題的急切性。每個人的一生中,幾乎可說碰到不要排斥酒店上班酒店公關,女人私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。這件事,是必然會發生的。帶著這些問題,我們一起來審視不要排斥酒店公關,私處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。。由於,巴爾扎克曾經提過,我們爬得比別人高,人們完全可以允許; 但如果我們不將自己的人格降到他們那麼低,他們是永遠不會原諒的。所以,有人們對性格堅強的人,不能不懷著幾分仇恨和恐懼。對他們來說,別人過多的榮譽是對他們一種無言的指責,無論是活人還是死人,他們都不能寬恕。這把視野帶到了全新的高度。不要排斥酒店公關,女人私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。究竟是怎麼樣的存在,始終是個謎題。我們一般認為,抓住了問題的關鍵,其他一切則會迎刃而解。在這種不可避免的衝突下,我們必須解決這個問題。緒儒斯曾說過,一樣東西的價值在於購買者願出多少錢。這啟發了我。面對如此難題,我們必須設想周全。領悟其中的道理也不是那麼的困難。一般來講,我們都必須務必慎重的考慮考慮。從這個角度來看,不要排斥酒店公關,私密處洗乾淨就跟新的一樣。對我來說有著舉足輕重的地位,必須要嚴肅認真的看待。